The new Citroën C3 will land this fall: ultimate indiscretions before its revelation

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Citröen C3 Electric: a first image and already info on the future city car

The manufacturer promises availability in 2024 and a very aggressive sale price, below 25,000 euros.

The Citroën Ë-C3 in concession in 2024

By publishing its latest financial results, Stellantis wanted to slip a first image of the long -awaited Citroën C3 electric. This new model to come should benefit from a complete presentation next October, for marketing at the beginning of 2024.

On the name side, Stellantis has confirmed the surname Citroën Ë-C3, and the small city car must in particular come to rub shoulders with the very popular Peugeot E-208 but also to the Future Renault 5 Electric, which will take over from the Zoe, whose production will soon be definitively stopped.

A car for less than 25,000 euros ?

Stellantis also confirmed that this future Citroën Ë-C3 will be based on the Smart Car platform, the same which allowed the group to develop the C3 proposed in Latin America and India. The future Citroën Ë-C3 should resume various elements, while benefiting from many adjustments, without forgetting modified front and rear faces, and the new logo of the brand.

An initiative which should allow the group to display its future Citroën Ë-C3 at a price less than 25,000 euros. The upcoming model in Europe should in particular draw inspiration from the Citroën Oli concept, and this Ë-C3 will take the appearance of a small SUV, with (among others) a raised ground clearance.

The Citroën Oli concept, presented in October 2022 © Citroën

On the autonomy side, Stellantis already promises future buyers that the Ë-C3 will be able to travel 300 kilometers before being recharged. According to various indiscretions, the vehicle could be offered in two versions: with an 82 -horsepower engine and a 42 -kilowattheure battery (kWh), but also in 109 horsepower version with a 50 kWh battery.

The new Citroën Ë-C3 should be manufactured in Europe, in Slovakia very precisely, and will therefore compete with two other models whose entry ticket should also start at 25,000 euros, namely the small electric R5, but also the future Volkswagen ID.2.

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Citroën’s new boss explained that the vehicle would have the equipment expected by European customers. Clearly, there will be the essentials. A formula clearly modeled on that of the Dacia Sandero !
Basically, for € 5K more in competition, you have an adaptive cruise control and all the equipment that is expected of a car of 2023, 50km of additional autonomy, more volume, more power, a resale occasion in occasion.
As much, I was looking forward to the Citroën Oli, there, if it is to have an more expensive Dacia Spring, I do not see the interest. It is either 5000 € too much for it to be competitive with a spring, (that is to say the strict minimum for a VE, it makes sense at 20k € I think) or it is missing the premium that we expect to this price there.

€ 25,000 a small car … is that it’s not expensive? I have to leave this planet.

Xryl:
Basically, for € 5K more in competition, you have an adaptive cruise control and all the equipment that is expected of a car of 2023, 50km of additional autonomy, more volume, more power, a resale occasion in occasion.
As much, I was looking forward to the Citroën Oli, there, if it is to have an more expensive Dacia Spring, I do not see the interest. It is either 5000 € too much for it to be competitive with a spring, (that is to say the strict minimum for a VE, it makes sense at 20k € I think) or it is missing the premium that we expect to this price there.
You will have to see the details of the offer, but we know that going to look for € 5k in this range is super difficult … The Spring is not more than 230km WLTP and with a power frankly not exciting to venture outside the city. Here we place ourselves in front of the Zoé than the Spring. R5 to see because prices will increase, performance too, it could precisely release the niche.
Fredolabecane:
€ 25,000 a small car … is that it’s not expensive? I have to leave this planet.
A small electric car especially. You have to start stopping at only looking at the purchase price, otherwise it makes no sense ..
As much at the beginning it was blurred on the real cost of use, as much with progressive democratization it is quite unanimous: it costs much less on a daily basis, in the worst case as much as a thermal on long journey (except with Tesla, where it is much cheaper), the maintenance is less and it is for the moment super good the coast on occasion.
Of all the owners of electricity that I have the opportunity to attract, there is only one who is ultimately ironed in thermal, and it was not for financial reason (since replacement of an audi e- Tron GT by an RSQ8…), the others are rather in Tesla and more than satisfied with the comfort of use as well as the value-price ratio.

Fully agree !
But we’re going to tell you that the electric is less expensive ..
But that is without counting the expected electricity increases by 10% in August, 17% then then still 17% ..
And personally, at home (town house) I still can’t find the solution to recharge an electric car … which will often be recharged being given autonomy ..
In short, I will keep my little thermal for a few more years eh ..

The fuel also increases, the current standards are those which were considered raised 5 years ago.
But yes, the variation in the price of electricity makes the equation difficult to solve to know whether or not it will remain advantageous, and especially to guarantee that we can always pay the credit+energy bill at the end of the month.

I looked for a site that made it possible to assess the cost at km.
For example, there is calculating the cost per km
Well sorry to disappoint you, but with the higher cost of purchase and the increase in the price of electricity, you will find that the electric is at the same price as a diesel per km.
I go on the hypothesis of a price of € 45,000 for a thermal model and € 55,000 for the electric equivalent and on 18000km per year while keeping its vehicle 10 years.
And in thermal (with my 5008) I manage to make more than 1000km with my 60L of tank while driving comfortably at 130km/h on a highway.
If I want to stay at an attractive price with an electric I will not use a supercharger, so the 1000km I will do them in 3 days.
If I use a supercharger, then there the advantage of the cost is for thermal.
I am wrong ?

Yes indeed.
And then France is able to supply a park with 100% of electric cars?
Before wanting to impose a product or lifestyle, it is necessary to set up the suitable infrastructure and which would make this possible.

Well, potentially yes you’re wrong. You look at the scenario most unfavorable to electric: the highway is the most expensive load possible (hence the interest of the autonomy of the thermal, moreover), and the most energy -consuming speed possible (they are penalized by the weight) and without counting the maintenance of the vehicle.
Few individuals are 18,000km highway per year. The reality is that the average French is barely 35km per day, on average. And rarely at a speed of 130kmh.
It will therefore be mainly in the area where the electric consumption of the car is lower and able to load for cheaper (less powerful terminals, domicile …), but also in the area where the thermal yield is the least good: traffic jams , start to fire, less favorable reports of the box. And on winding roads, the regenerative brake will further improve the whole.
So yes, maybe this model driver will pay more for his 3 major annual journeys (Christmas, summer and a joker trip), but he can largely win all the rest of the year.
However, we agree that it is far from adapting to all the usual scenarios for the moment, but that is advancing at a crazy speed and with a room of short -term evolution on almost all The chain (energy production, capacity and weight of batteries, consumption), where the thermal is clearly out of breath on the possibilities of evolution from downsizing.

My Ve arrives at 13000km, including 0km of toll highway or I have not felt the need to use it for the moment.
I am currently running at less than 10 €/week to use it.
Here you.

MISTERDAMS:
As much at the beginning it was blurred on the real cost of use, as much with progressive democratization it is quite unanimous: it costs much less on a daily basis, in the worst case as much as a thermal on long journey
By forgetting as usual in the calculation that the electric car, you must first buy it.
Personally, I have a new car bought which is 6 years old/60.000 km and that I can still keep for several years, in what I would be winning by reselling it to have to slam at least 20.€ 000 in a ve ?
The choice of a VE is therefore only valid in a single scenario: when you want or must change vehicles. For all those who have a good car that is not necessary to replace, it has no interest and talking about savings is therefore somewhere ridiculous.

I never said that it was the right economic plan, moreover my previous comments just say that it is difficult to know whether or not the purchase cost can be absorbed by the savings made to use, since it depends on the purchase and use. It’s like buying low consumption housing: more expensive to buy, but when you get energy attacks, you can find your way around.
For the electric VS thermal, we are strictly in the Diesel/Essence comparison of the 80s, where everyone considered to be smarter than the other when everyone could find their account with a motorization or the other. I just leer to the fact that we tend to take the worst imaginable scenario when we make the comparison
Honestly, I am not a great supporter of the new purchase given the big loss of value almost immediate. However, I leave the postulate that the price of a new car is compared especially at the price of another new car. But by looking at the thermal and electric price of the new market, they must be put back in the context of the cost of use because it is not a scoop that electric costs more on the 1st invoice (although certain comparisons become frankly complicated to arbitrate with the Chinese !)).
On the other hand, it is also necessary to take into account the costs of use, maintenance and especially the resale value. For a long time the Germans were better positioned on the LLDs because they knew very well that by taking up the vehicle they would resell much more expensive than a Frenchwoman … For the tenant, he was driving for barely more expensive in a better car.
Today, the second -hand discount market on the electric, it is even a limit of the scam, but since everyone cannot afford new, especially with the current rates, well the sellers take advantage of it ..
The market will surely take a slap around 2025 (with the new platforms that are deployed, with more autonomy for less) but for the moment I would say that the lights are always green. For the thermal market, it is a bit leaving or double, either it will be shunned because they are demonized, therefore with prices in free fall, or it will on the contrary tear at gold prices because the offer will reduce and that people will want/will not be able to take an electric.
When to talk about the replacement of a 6 year old car, it’s not the same context either. As the ten years approaching, there will start to be expensive interventions that will not be found in 10 years on existing electricity (distribution belt, clutch, etc.). Here again, there is a share of unknown on the electric, we know that the batteries will be changed one day, but we don’t know too much when: the models are pretty good for years, the Bluecar much less and in addition Now there are several battery technologies in the same cars to arrange anything. But the bisounours vision of the conversion bonus who thinks that it is for pleasure that people roll in crim’air 5, it is a ridiculous ..

For the time it lasts. When the state will stop putting citizens under infusion for the price of KW (and when they want to recover the excisee united fuel …) it will laugh less. It will also be expensive to use if it is only a thermal with all the drawbacks of the electric.
We will see but the future of mobility is not radiant.

Supposition and eccentric fantasy … Even if the state has a loss of TIPP on the KW/H, it will represent what … 4 … 5CT KW/H max … Not enough to whip a cat ..
And in the worst case when the time will come, it leaves time to see coming … The fact remains that I am very satisfied not to refuel anymore … at the current price (him) from the liter.

What is fun are the Cassandre who predict all the evils in the future and in different fields … Except in cases where they prefer to believe that everything will happen for the best in the best of worlds.

You have to read: from 25 k € and max 300 km of autonomy … for a sardine box … Hum.
So, the 250 km WTLP 25 k model, 150 km on motorways without pushing…

Quite ! For the moment, we bait the customer. And then it is tax on the electric load thanks to Linky meters. In short, not ready to change for electricity and my car is over 15 years old … Ptet that while waiting for some years I will have insurance and the “Collection car” mode gray card. On this subject do vintage cars derogate from the ZFE ? The ZFEs … The thing that will do Pschitt when they will realize that people cannot afford to buy electric and since nobody wants to buy a second -hand (already that nine autonomy is ridiculous So after 10 years)

The thing that will do pschitt when they will realize that people cannot afford to buy electric
And if the goal was precisely to take the opportunity to redevelop the cities so that you no longer need a car to do your shopping, go to work, have leisure, etc., as it was done less than 100 years ago ?
It is not up to the state to subsidize car manufacturers.

Martin_Penwald:
Rearrange the cities so that you no longer need a car to do your shopping, go to work, have leisure, etc,
It is true that it would be hyper-simple to do.

Blackalf:
It is true that it would be hyper-simple to do.
This is exactly what the Netherlands have been doing since the end of 70-early 80, since the modal part of the car has plummeted for the benefit of the bicycle … in Amsterdam for example, they went from 2% bikes in 1988 to 28% in 2006…
We are 30 years late, but this is the management that we finally take in France, by reorganizing cities to promote other modes of transport. And you know what ? That works. In all the big cities that acted to promote cycling, the practice has exploded. We can see it for example by reading this article. And in particular by comparing the graphics “part of the bicycle as a main mode of displacement to go to work” and “density of cycle arrangements”: we can see that the cities which are at the top of the basket on the first are also generally in the top of the basket on the second.
In Paris, which has greatly developed its cycle network, the number of bicycle trips has been multiplied by 5 over the last 20 years, while the number of car trips was divided by two … The City of Paris is expecting this that the number of trips by bike soon exceeds the number of travel by car: https: // Twitter.com/david_belliard/status/14511306866660825094
And the craziest in all this is that these developments only cost in public money only a fraction of what the necessary arrangements cost for the car … and in practice, studies carried out in different cities in different countries have even shown That there is a very rapid return on investment for the money invested in cycle infrastructure: it improves local trade (and therefore, return on public investment via taxes), it reduces health expenses (therefore economy of public money), etc… The budget of the 2021-2026 bicycle plan in Paris, is over 5 years on average 0.5% of the budget of the city of Paris and 3% of its transport budget…

Well yes, precisely.
Here, in the Dunkirk region, there has been a lot of redevelopment of roads, bus lines and cycle paths creations.
On the coast between Grande-Synthe/Puythouck and Leffrinckoucke/Fort des Dunes, there are 5 express lines with buses every 10 minutes in rush hour, and stops located less than 5 minutes walk from anyone dwelling. More other lines that go in the surroundings with a lower frequency. And the whole network is free. With the extended network, you can go from Grand-Fort-Philippe to west of Dunkirk to Adinkerque in Belgium without paying a penny.
On the other hand, there are much fewer streets for cars and parking. But that does not mean that local businesses are deserted, on the contrary.
With a political desire to change things, we can arrange to limit the use of the car. Obviously, we can’t do that on your own in your corner.

Otherwise, other than that, let’s go back to our sheep, the C3 you think what? And the concept oli, with its magnificent vertical windshield at the Norman wardrobe CX, you find that normal you or it is I who ramble?

The C3, it will be a cheaper derivative of the 208 … and always in the price policy of European manufacturers. Nothing surprising … to see his head but personally I am not convinced.
Oli is a prototype … We like it or we don’t like it, little chance of seeing it disembark anyway.
I had a lot of Citroën, and when I had to renew mine, given the prices and services … I bought Chinese. And it doesn’t seem to go in the right direction yet. They must think like opticians … “There are aids and bonuses anyway for funding”.

I had lots of CX, GS, Dyane, and so on … And I always have my dsuper, you understand my dismay when I see the Citroën today ..

I mentioned the highway, but it was among other things.
I don’t just do the highway with my car. I make the city, medium journeys and very long journeys with my 4 children (so 6 in the car).
And thermal allows this versatility. While electric … at 7 places … It does not run (does not roll) the streets.
So yes it evolves, relatively quickly, but I will wait for the short or rather medium term before taking the plunge … as long as I am not imposed on me (which does not seem to be looming unfortunately, the laws that come into force will force us to change for the 5th in the medium term).

This is indeed the first remark that we make ourselves when we see the beast !
What do engineers think or rather designers?
For an electric vehicle, aerodynamics should not be one of the most important points?
They wanted to copy the first Citroën ? (type a)
https: // www.citroeurigins.co.UK/Sites/Default/Files/Styles/640/Public/Typea_62_1620x1000.png

For the cost of use, there is the cost “now” and the cost “soon”.
The state is not going to sit on the billions of taxes reported by petrol, especially with 3000 billion debts.
So at this price, I think it’s too expensive and I keep my essence. It’s impossible to make profitable. It is an ecological purchase (and many people will say that it is discussed) but not economical.

Poor calculation, this summer in electric MG, Paris region trip to Aude (850km):
The return trip cost me € 110 in electricity in total.
I rolled 110 on the highway, however,.

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A reassuring technical platform

The new European Citroën C3 is therefore expected at the turn, in the security chapter, as the level of requirements increases, under our latitudes. In addition to the contribution of security equipment, a structural strengthening will have been carried out by the brand engineers who will benefit from the benefits of the CMP platform which is already at La Citroën C4, among many models of the Stellantis group. In the end, let us bet that this new C3 will offer services diametrically opposed to its alter Egos marketed at the other end of the world.

Daughter of Oli

Moreover, the newcomer will also endeavor to break with the design of these “exotic” models by concretizing, for the first time in series, the formal language instilled last year by the Citroën Oli concept car. Thus, the C3 Cuvée 2024 will inaugurate in production the new logo of the brand, itself surrounded by unpublished optics of rectangular shape bordered by day LEDs. Lower, the grille will display a more vertical attitude, just like the bumpers encompassing the long litters, while the rocker will accommodate a semblance of a protective hoof. Synonymous elements of robustness that will openly evoke the universe of SUVs, in the same way as the roof bars which the current C3 so far was deprived of.

Democratize the electric

More brown in the soul, she will not fail to increase her guard at the same way as her height under ceiling in order to facilitate access on board, but will contain her total length slightly above 4 meters to honor her role city ​​dweller. The city will be its favorite field, especially under cover of total electrification. For the time being, its technical specifications remain secret, except that this Citroën Ë-C3 promises a range of 300 km related to its entry-level rate located under the fateful bar of € 25,000 (excluding bonus ) that Renault has also set itself with its new R5 E-Tech Electric, scheduled for 2024. Finally, it remains to know its thermal motorization. On this subject, Citroën should logically set his sights on the new MILD-HYBRID (48V) motorization of 100 hp, recently hooked in many cousins ​​of the Stellantis group.